hahahaha i used cattle farmers as an example last week(diff.subject), ahhwell great post rainer i beleive the hybrid haters are just prejudiceand small, i never understood the pee&beer scenario if breedin a snake and a turtle sure it would apply but snake to snake would be more like beer and beer,now maybe lonestar mixed with schmidt isnt everyones favorite taste of beer but its still beer none the less wow im thirsty all of a sudden!,,,,,,,thomas