Terry there are a few more rat snake I'll see if another friend will let me use his pics, he;s got hundres of nice pics. I'v learned alot about the snakes here and take notes, I'm very keen on writing a book. I'v know a Few local herpers that are willing to help gather the info, and what ever pics I might need.

Don I know there are some guys exporting them from Hong Kong. The Read bamboo rats are easyer to keep than Mandarains. They seem a little less shy and can handel higher temps.