They should be discussed in the VENOMOID forum. Not here. That's the reason why the sub-forum was created. If you don't want to see any flaming posts, this isn't the place to bring up the topic. I do, however, appreciate the level headed responses that were given. Hopefully the mods will move this to the appropriate forum before it gets out of hand. Everyone knows how I feel about them, and the topic was played out on the venomous forum years ago.