Hi, Thank you very much for your help, well I got it from a breeder from California, so I don't think he didn't know what he was sending to me, actually I am working but when I get home I'll take pics of the plastron and post them. The tortoise is nice and I like it, I just want to know what I got, I am new to this world of tortoises, and learning now, not good start but I will keep on the way. Thx again.