you know i feel awful...almost as if i started a turf war of sorts...i simply wanted an unbiased opinion...i knew there was a category specifically for venemoids, but i wanted an opinion from people who were not supporters of the procedure...i have since contacted the people at venomoids and posed the question to them...they informed me that even if the procedure was performed correctly there is still a huge chance for infection and you should head to the hospital immeadiately for antibiotics and observation...again thanks for your responces--Judith