thanks so much for responding! It seems like the people on here really know what they are talking about..which is EXACTLY what i am looking for!! Anyway, I do soak them. i try to every day, but honestly probably only 5 days a week....proably 30 minutes each soak, or until they poo. They do have a shallow water dish in their cage that they can go into if they want (but they never do..not even to drink, they just wait unitl i give them a bath). Like i said, i live in a small town and the vet is by no means a "specialist" so ANY advise would be greatly appreciated. The only way i have learned has been by internet research and (sad to say) trial and error. i added some more pictures of the female. Hopefully it helps? THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!