Thx but i've already tried lizards, frogs, and pinkie mice. I tried teasing him with food also instead of just putting him in with it but that didn't work. I'm just gonna open his mouth up and just see if he starts swallowing once it's in his mouth, that's what i'm doing with my sunbeam. Even though it's gonna take some work I'm not gonna give up on him. Thx for the response though! =)