Wow. The guy we talked to went on this long thing about how the only way he could get venom out was to use little rubber basketballs that he heated up and then rolled by the snake so it would strike. Then had to cut the little ball open to extract the venom. Don't wanna name any names obviously, but it's someone we've done a good deal of business with/for and I didn't see any reason for him to lie. Definitely thought it a bit suspect...at the very least extravagant, or even unneccesary. Thanks for clearing that up though. I obviously don't own them, so was just throwing out what I'd been told.