Well once thing I will say is that is NOT a red spotted garter.... but it's lovely! It looks like a pickeringii (puget sound) and there are red and blue phase pugets, that one is either a mix of those two phases or she is an intergrade between a red pot and a puget.... or a valley and a puget.... or something! It's imposssible to actually know. where on earth did you get those that they sent you that as a red spotted garter?!