Well the ambons came in today but unfortunately neither were alive. FedEx screwed me around about the delivery and its 85 degrees here and they were shipped with a heat pack. Didn't get them until 6:30 and as soon as i opened the box the smell hit me. I have to admit they look more like paulsoni than carinata. alot thicker and longer than mainland carinatas. I guess I could pull them out of the freezer and photograph them.