cheers for the advice re-bhps ill give it a go we get mice and rats of course here but also japanese quail so ill try fresh killed rat pups with snake shed then ill try leave a smorgas board like you do they are bound to come online sooner or later they are growing just with the adult rat tails which is good

the woma's are indeed locality specific... rockhampton downs the have a fantastic reduced pattern on the neck and wonderfull colouring with clean even markings as they get older