LOL Justin. I was very surprised to drag down through the topics to to see Dave and Bob.

I would like to add I think intelligence varies by species then by individuals. There are some people who are brain-dead to me and some of them may not pass the test we put animals through lol.

My crocs test boundries every day unlike any monitors I have ever owned (savs, bts, ackies, tristis). They are not 100% food driven either. I look at them and they look right back> My big varanus salvadorii was smart enough to train me-not the other way around