Yeah for sure Mark. What a nice looking group. I would like to see them after a bath when they look all shiney and new! Yeah as far as chucks I think that guy has had quite a few rare lizards and/or nice lizard species. Would be cool to visit one day. I wish I could remember his name. I think actually Bert Langerwerf was going to buy the place back in 84 but instead came to the US.