"... yea we supply heat, and such, but nothing like what they do in nature. "
That was exactly my point Frank from the very beginning but you didn't seem to understand it or want to accept it until now. I question why you seem to be so argumentative until the obvious finally smacks you in the head. Maybe instead of trying to question everything and everybody you take a moment of silence an comprehend the points being made by others.

"It would be a nice conversation if you would actually make some realistic points. Like how does our temps reflect nature."
You didnt ask that question now did you Frank? That would be a good thread to start. Unfortunately I think real scientific data is going to be hard to come by to support any real comparisons.

"Great, anyone can do that and no one benefits. Thanks"
Actually you just benefited by learning that everything we do in captivety is an attempt to mimic their natural environment.

Peace out...