Also, these claims have been backed up ad nauseum. You simply don't like their most vigorous messenger, Frank, because he doesn't validate you with each post. He's not in the hognose arse patting clique (nor am I) and it offends you. While I agree that hogs are special, remarkable, highly adapted critters, they are also simple colubrids and their basic husbandry has been established, for decades. You repeatedly speak of science, but the important, husbandry related science has also been established for a while now. You speak of theories, but these theories have been proven in snake rooms all over the world for many, many years. I personally don't care what you do, but I do care that folks read your words and believe that the jury is still out on the important stuff we are discussing. What Gregg said is absolutely true. Most folks just want to get a few clutches and don't care too much beyond that. Well they ought to care that these snakes can successfully reproduce for decades, but usually end up in the freezer, trash or compost pile by 5 or six years because these simple fixes are not known, or worse are dismissed because a "lack of evidence" by folks like yourself.

Will