The red tiger bulls were originally produced by KJ Lodrigue as well as the reddest bulls I've seen yet. They were not Kingsville locality, but I suspect that line may have had Kingsville influence. The original parents were very red Crumly bulls that I purchased years ago directly from Mr. Crumly himself. You can view parents and original red and tiger offspring by searching kj's snakehaven and the pituophis page.