Wonderful animals Gregg, your reds deserve their name. The greens, while yours are as green as I have seen. No others even came close to yours. Put it this way, when your greens are as green as your reds are red, I will be all in.
So the question is, is the ones being offered for sale, not genetic greens and reds, or just poor quality individuals? Or are they simply misrepresenting them?