Will, Dang it, it sounds a bit rude and FR like when taken out of context. hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha Awwww it is what it is. And you can quote me.

Gregg, What would be of interest to me is, how many individual founders did it take to develop all the western hognose morphs? Not individual animals, but founders, the ones that came directly out of nature. My bet for nasicus is, very few. Maybe less then fifty. But most likely between fifty and a hundred. Since I have started this, I have seen over three hundred founders, including the unfortunate road kills.