Ok, will try google again. It's not like all I do is snakes....I have about 15 hobbies that keep me up til 2-3 AM every night. I assume everyone here knows how to sex a snake, so why can't I get one good description? Is this one of those questions that everyone is tired of answering? How bout if I offered money....I have more of that than time. I am in north county San Diego. come on over and show me and I will pay for your gas and let you herp on my 25 acres.