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j3nnay Jan 25, 2007 07:47 PM

Just acquired a Mountain Horned Lizard, although after poking around the forum a bit I think I'm in a Horned Lizard minority, since everyone else seems to have Desert Horned Lizards.

Anyway, I just got the lil guy today and I'm not sure of the subspecies. I'm pretty sure he's an A. Lepidogaster, but then, "he" could actually be a "she" of something else.

Here's some pictures of him, taken right before I put him in his cage to get settled in.

His throat:

Body("he" actually doesn't have any noticeable hemipene bulges, and in fact the only thing making me think "he"'s a he is his large and colorful throat flap):

He's a WC import, and I've been looking at him and researching for the past three weeks and finally today I decided to get him.

Any tips on anything specific for Mountain Horned Lizards and any suggestions on his Ssp or gender would be greatly appreciated!

~jenny
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1.2 normal ball pythons (Cindy, Darwin, and Periscope)
0.2 rescue chinese water dragons (Yoni and Linga)
1.0 rex rat (Scurvy)
1.0 gerbil (Yerbul)
0.1 mice (Cute Girl Mousy)
0.1 bunny (Spazz)
1.1 betta fishes (Vicious and Killer)
2.2 great danes (Shasta, Odysseus, Merlot, and Watson)
1.0 fat fuzzy mutt (Smokey)
1.1 cats (Thidwick and Turtle)
3.0 horses (Buddy, Sam, and Scout)
1.0 goat (Billy Jack)
1.25 chickens (Ugly the rooster and his harem)

jenny.thegreenes.org

Replies (4)

fireside3 Jan 26, 2007 07:38 AM

Actually your in the wrong forum. You have a mountain horned dragon Acanthosaura. This forum is for Phrynosoma. But I think you have an A. capra based on the broadness of the spines and the light coloration under the eye patch. Could be cross with A. lepidogaster too with the short occipitals. Try the Mountain Dragons forum though.
Can't tell the sex without an underside shot, and it's also a juvenile, but hemipenes should be somewhat noticeable if male.
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"A man that should call everything by it's right name, would hardly pass the streets without being knocked down as a common enemy." The Complete Works of George Savile, First Marquess of Halifax 1912,246

j3nnay Jan 26, 2007 09:39 AM

Thanks, I realized that a couple hours later. The petstore I got him from labelled him as a "Lizard" so that's what I looked for!

According to a couple people over there, he's either a male from an undescribed species or a female capra.

Thank you for the response!

~jenny
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1.2 normal ball pythons (Cindy, Darwin, and Periscope)
0.2 rescue chinese water dragons (Yoni and Linga)
0.0.1 Mountain Horned Lizard
1.0 rex rat (Scurvy)
1.0 gerbil (Yerbul)
0.1 mice (Cute Girl Mousy)
0.1 bunny (Spazz)
1.1 betta fishes (Vicious and Killer)
2.2 great danes (Shasta, Odysseus, Merlot, and Watson)
1.0 fat fuzzy mutt (Smokey)
1.1 cats (Thidwick and Turtle)
3.0 horses (Buddy, Sam, and Scout)
1.0 goat (Billy Jack)
1.25 chickens (Ugly the rooster and his harem)

jenny.thegreenes.org

fireside3 Jan 26, 2007 05:31 PM

Regardless of whether you call it a "dragon" or not, it's still a "lizard". In common terms though you have a Mountain Horned Dragon, and what we have here is Horned Lizards. Both lizards, just different genus.

It's definitely a Horned Dragon, and there shouldn't be much debate about whether it's male or female. A good enough picture should show hemipenes or not, regardless of species. That's pretty well a constant identifier in every genus of lizard I am familiar with. Almost any keeper here familiar with sexing Horned Lizards could tell you what sex your MHD is, so I don't understand the confusion in other forums?
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"A man that should call everything by it's right name, would hardly pass the streets without being knocked down as a common enemy." The Complete Works of George Savile, First Marquess of Halifax 1912,246

j3nnay Jan 26, 2007 05:54 PM

NP
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1.2 normal ball pythons (Cindy, Darwin, and Periscope)
0.2 rescue chinese water dragons (Yoni and Linga)
0.0.1 Mountain Horned Lizard
1.0 rex rat (Scurvy)
1.0 gerbil (Yerbul)
0.1 mice (Cute Girl Mousy)
0.1 bunny (Spazz)
1.1 betta fishes (Vicious and Killer)
2.2 great danes (Shasta, Odysseus, Merlot, and Watson)
1.0 fat fuzzy mutt (Smokey)
1.1 cats (Thidwick and Turtle)
3.0 horses (Buddy, Sam, and Scout)
1.0 goat (Billy Jack)
1.25 chickens (Ugly the rooster and his harem)

jenny.thegreenes.org

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