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Trade for Eastern Indigo

tinamarie Oct 11, 2013 06:29 AM

Hi is there any Federal web site on this subject.Or does someone know what the law is on trade with these.And is each State Law different. Thank Tina
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Replies (4)

englishaussie Oct 11, 2013 09:40 PM

Hi Tina,
I asked this same question to Cam Shaw, he`s the guy that deals with permits. I spoke to him Personally & he told me there is no permit required on a trade, as long as no money changes hands & it is just a snake for snake trade.
At the time i was trading with a guy from PA. He also spoke to mr Shaw.

Hope this helps,
Andy.

shadowguy Oct 12, 2013 05:31 AM

Beware the slippery slope... If "trade" occurs in one state and both animals are legally posesed no permit is required. If interstate commerce is entered into a trade might well fall under the umbrella of the term "barter" which after all is a form of payment. A legally held animal can be gifted to or lent on a breeding loan without a permit, or move with it's owner in the case of a move of residence. A trade of two Indigos might fly based on the previous writer's comments while a "Salmon Boa" for a Indigo sounds like a sale albeit shrouded in grey. Best obtain info from the appropriate federal agency and print out same if it's what you're hoping to hear. Only need to be concerned with state restrictions in those where the animal historically is native.

englishaussie Oct 12, 2013 08:18 PM

The trade i was entering into was an adult male Eastern for two hatchling females in 2012 with a breeder in PA.
Cam Shaw stated there was no permit required on this trade as no money was to change hands.

Best thing to do is call Cameron Shaw.

johnnic Oct 12, 2013 11:32 PM

my understanding also is that a trade across state lines will require an interstate commerce permit. anything that has monetary value that is traded will require the permit. i ran this by my fws specialist lawyer buddy and that's also his understanding. only a pure gift does not require an interstate commerce permit. the last thing you want is to violate a federal law no matter how non sensical it may seem because fws likes nothing better than coming after the private hobbyist.

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