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>>"In practice, of course, AC has virtually NO desire to take these animals to the shelter, as long as the person who found them is willing to take responsibility for them" >> >>AC may have a duty to seize an animal
No, they don't. Read that ordinance again. "Upon receiving such notice, an animal control or police officer shall take such animal and place it in the animal shelter or allow temporary custody".
Animal Control keeps a log book of lost and found animals. When you call in to tell them that you've found a dog, they put it in their log book along with your contact info. That's ALL they do, and it's all that they have a legal "duty" to do.
>>and desire all depends on the individual and the circumstances, in my work as an AC officer we could never revoke property rights until very specific procedures were followed.
Right. AFTER a dog is in the shelter, the SHELTER has to follow the 3 or 5 or 7 day hold time, depending on jurisdiction. But that hold time does NOT have to be done at the shelter. The person who found the dog can do it as well, as long as AC is notified.
>>Additionally, we never assigned rights either, but we did enforce adoption requirements and we did do health and welfare checks. Dogs that qualify for adoption also required the prospective owners to qualify for ownership which was facilitated at another shelter after the animal was transported. We did not want the public perception that we gave away the family pet to the next door neighbor.
Sure. Those are SHELTER requirements. That has nothing to do with assuming ownership of a stray that has never made it to the shelter.
>>I could leave, or recognize, the dog in the custody of an individual other than the owner which was not assigning ownership, the distinction is important because if I saw a violation I could still hold the individual who was in control of the animal responsible, but I could never violate the individual right of private property while out in the field by arbitrarily assigning new ownership.
Nobody said you could. You are arguing a claim that has never been made.
>>Also, most rescue groups were on the up and up, but I've had to take a few to court because they were animal hoarders. Not saying that this is common or that is what you all are about, but it is something we had to deal with.
Sure. No argument there. In fact, just last week a terrible case of rescue abuse went to trial right here in TN. It was even a doberman rescuer, up in Johnson City. There is still no word on what happened to 12 or 14 missing dogs. Rescuers can be idjits too! ----- ----
0.1 Peruvian rainbow boa (Amaru) 2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (Arco, Olho) 0.3 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Hari) 1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (Coatl) 2.7 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, Uce, TBA) 1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters
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- Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Mon Mar 8 19:51:44 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Mon Mar 8 22:56:15 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - brd, Mon Mar 8 23:23:27 2010

- here is link - brd, Mon Mar 8 23:38:03 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Tue Mar 9 05:56:21 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 06:58:53 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - natsamjosh, Tue Mar 9 07:03:09 2010

- And btw... - natsamjosh, Tue Mar 9 07:07:05 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 07:09:02 2010

- RE: And btw... - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 07:10:02 2010

- there are boas - brd, Tue Mar 9 11:04:00 2010

- RE: there are boas - natsamjosh, Tue Mar 9 12:28:22 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 12:36:25 2010

- RE: there are boas - bivittatus, Tue Mar 9 14:42:30 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Tue Mar 9 19:32:35 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Tue Mar 9 19:53:34 2010

- I agree, Tom - brd, Tue Mar 9 20:09:23 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Tue Mar 9 20:37:38 2010

- RE: there are boas - brd, Tue Mar 9 20:47:40 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 20:56:07 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 21:00:40 2010

- RE: here is link - jscrick, Tue Mar 9 21:09:46 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Tue Mar 9 21:37:34 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Tue Mar 9 21:39:30 2010

- RE: there are boas - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 22:14:33 2010

- RE: there are boas - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 22:22:49 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 22:29:09 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 22:32:08 2010

- RE: there are boas - jscrick, Tue Mar 9 22:34:16 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 22:37:48 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Tue Mar 9 22:38:09 2010

- RE: there are boas - brd, Tue Mar 9 22:41:46 2010

- RE: there are boas - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 22:43:06 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 22:46:10 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 22:50:30 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 22:51:55 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 22:58:50 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 23:15:59 2010

- RE: there are boas - bivittatus, Tue Mar 9 23:18:58 2010

- RE: there are boas - bivittatus, Tue Mar 9 23:27:22 2010

- RE: there are boas - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 23:29:26 2010

- RE: there are boas - bivittatus, Tue Mar 9 23:38:24 2010

- RE: there are boas - Danny Conner, Tue Mar 9 23:46:54 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 23:56:11 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Tue Mar 9 23:59:34 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Wed Mar 10 00:16:39 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 00:20:24 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Wed Mar 10 00:42:06 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Ravenspirit, Wed Mar 10 00:42:39 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Ravenspirit, Wed Mar 10 00:56:56 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 01:01:01 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 01:16:37 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Wed Mar 10 05:59:47 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Wed Mar 10 06:23:41 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 10 06:23:59 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 10 06:26:57 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 10 06:33:02 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 10 06:34:47 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 10 06:47:10 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 10 06:52:17 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - jscrick, Wed Mar 10 07:50:46 2010

- RE: there are boas - natsamjosh, Wed Mar 10 08:10:56 2010

- RE: there are boas - jscrick, Wed Mar 10 08:12:01 2010

- Yes. Thanks. n/p - jscrick, Wed Mar 10 08:13:51 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Wed Mar 10 09:09:55 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - TBrophy, Wed Mar 10 13:34:51 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 15:02:59 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 15:13:04 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 15:15:41 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 15:16:32 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Wed Mar 10 15:21:20 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Wed Mar 10 19:11:40 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Wed Mar 10 19:13:32 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Wed Mar 10 19:41:46 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - cychluraguy, Wed Mar 10 20:50:43 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - natsamjosh, Wed Mar 10 20:56:59 2010

- STOP CRANKING THE HANDLE - brd, Wed Mar 10 21:41:45 2010

- RE: STOP CRANKING THE HANDLE - jscrick, Wed Mar 10 22:01:10 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 11 06:16:34 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 11 06:22:00 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - bivittatus, Thu Mar 11 08:04:23 2010

- RE: STOP CRANKING THE HANDLE - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 12:08:37 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 12:12:03 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 12:17:50 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 12:24:55 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Thu Mar 11 14:19:33 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 14:28:23 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Thu Mar 11 15:41:22 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Thu Mar 11 16:44:32 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 17:16:44 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 17:17:46 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Thu Mar 11 18:59:04 2010

- RE: there are boas - Ravenspirit, Thu Mar 11 19:41:54 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 19:43:53 2010

- CAN YOU SAY... - jscrick, Thu Mar 11 19:47:39 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 20:02:31 2010

- looked at another way... - jscrick, Thu Mar 11 20:10:04 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - natsamjosh, Thu Mar 11 20:24:42 2010

- RE: there are boas...AND ISSUES - amazondoc, Thu Mar 11 20:26:14 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Thu Mar 11 23:03:42 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Fri Mar 12 00:12:27 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Fri Mar 12 05:47:57 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Fri Mar 12 06:07:17 2010

RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Fri Mar 12 14:38:52 2010 
- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Fri Mar 12 14:52:41 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - jscrick, Fri Mar 12 21:14:00 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Fri Mar 12 22:52:55 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Fri Mar 12 23:37:36 2010

- additional burms found today -- - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 00:13:06 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Sat Mar 13 06:35:47 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Sat Mar 13 07:02:39 2010

- personal experience - jscrick, Sat Mar 13 07:43:25 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Sat Mar 13 09:27:51 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - Danny Conner, Sat Mar 13 09:46:14 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 14:06:23 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 14:12:00 2010

- RE: personal experience - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 14:13:23 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 14:16:49 2010

- RE: there are boas - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 14:21:20 2010

- RE: there are boas - SgtStinky, Sat Mar 13 15:43:40 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Mcdowelli76, Sat Mar 13 16:18:37 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Sat Mar 13 16:24:36 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 17:18:50 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 17:23:40 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Danny Conner, Sat Mar 13 20:25:15 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - Mcdowelli76, Sat Mar 13 21:14:43 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Sat Mar 13 22:38:06 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Sun Mar 14 22:11:25 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Mon Mar 15 13:48:07 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 17 05:42:13 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 17 18:15:36 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 17 18:20:51 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Mar 17 18:26:23 2010

- RE: there are boas - jscrick, Wed Mar 17 18:39:08 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - amazondoc, Wed Mar 17 22:00:29 2010

- Nope - PHFaust, Wed Mar 17 22:01:45 2010

- RE: there are boas - Calparsoni, Thu Mar 18 00:35:50 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 18 05:08:19 2010

- RE: Nope - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 18 05:31:52 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 18 05:37:54 2010

- RE: there are boas - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 18 05:55:23 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - jscrick, Thu Mar 18 09:18:46 2010

- RE: Nope - amazondoc, Thu Mar 18 11:30:00 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - amazondoc, Thu Mar 18 11:35:52 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - amazondoc, Thu Mar 18 11:40:59 2010

- HELP - brd, Thu Mar 18 14:15:40 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - brd, Thu Mar 18 14:23:37 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 18 14:38:22 2010

- RE: Nope - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Mar 18 14:46:54 2010

- RE: there are boas - Calparsoni, Thu Mar 18 14:56:35 2010

- RE: there are boas - Calparsoni, Thu Mar 18 14:57:25 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - jscrick, Thu Mar 18 15:37:33 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - Jaykis, Thu Mar 18 19:53:14 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - SgtStinky, Fri Mar 19 18:24:54 2010

- RE: Released or Escaped? - amazondoc, Sat Mar 20 11:45:28 2010

- RE: additional burms found today -- - amazondoc, Sat Mar 20 11:46:39 2010

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