Hey Jim,
Did the natans show any changes in the skin before death?
Did you get the liver analyzed to check for vitamin toxicity?

I have had natans at work for more than 12 years which are fed at least 2 times a week (juveniles are fed to satiation daily until at least a year old) on earthworms and I have had them in enclosures with red-eye tree frogs where they would fed daily on any uneaten crickets (including the supplements) that were fed the frogs (I have also had them eat sick or dead retfs that were unable to get out of the water (in the morning you find a stripped frog skeleton in the tank). I have also fed them pinks, and pieces of beef heart.

Ed

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