What you see all over are no where near adults. I've yet to see one of that size produce an egg or talk to someone who has one of that size that has produced a viable egg.



There are many tortoise keepers who have absolutely no interest in the commercial aspect of the trade who are more than willing to sell off the animals they produce for amazingly (to you or I) low prices.



Also, there may be some 'farms' popping up in the countries of origin.





>>Hi Ed,

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>>I'm a bit confused. You said that you haven't seen an adult Russian offered for sale anywhere, anytime? They are all over the net Ed....

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>>Well, here is the problem with that theory. All these adult Russians your referring to were sold into the pet trade and very typically go to the little Johnny's and little Jimmy's of the pet trade. I don't see how someone could have round up all the babies at the same time from all these private breeders and then sold them to wholesalers only to be put back into the pet trade. As you know, Russians have small clutches and how there could be a bunch of babies at the same time from that many private breeders doesn't make sense. As you can see from the ads, it is mainly retailers that are selling the babies. VERY few private parties selling their own babies. There are just way too many available for it to be private breeders selling their offspring to wholesalers. They are on wholesalers lists for $59.00ea. That would mean that all these private breeders are selling their precious babies that they worked hard to produce for $35-$40.00ea? I don't think so......See my ponit?

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>>Barry
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