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>>"But if releases are ongoing, then restrictions on current hobbyists might still be important in preventing renewal of the feral population."
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>>That is exactly what I'm saying -- The AR crowd puts releases in the context as an ongoing current issue, which it clearly is not, otherwise there would be Greens, Labyrinth, Albinos found in the wild, offspring from released Hets.
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>>You seem to be agreeing with me on this.
I think it's a valid argument. Not sure I'd say "agree", because of all the caveats I've mentioned before. But I do think it's a good point to keep in the arsenal.
>>I'm of the opinion it was possible for many genetic mutations to be in the lower echelon "Pet Trade", unknowingly heterozygous for those mutations, from as long ago as 1996.
I'm comfortable with that date.
We know that burms were in the glades long before 96. We would naturally be seeing the population effects from those earlier releases -- less likely to be hets -- much more than from the later releases, which would be more likely to be hets. Perhaps in the next 10 years we WILL see morphs showing up. ----- ----
0.1 Peruvian rainbow boa (Amaru)
2.0 Brazilian rainbow boas (TBA)
0.3 Honduran milksnakes (Chicchan, Chanir, Hari)
1.0 Thayeri kingsnake (TBA)
2.7 corns (Cetto, Tolosa, TBA)
1,000,000.1,000,000 other critters
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- AmazonDoc........................... - Tom Burke, Fri Feb 19 19:13:28 2010

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- Good observation Brad - cychluraguy, Sat Feb 20 12:45:50 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - Tom Burke, Sat Feb 20 12:47:44 2010

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- RE: Good observation Brad - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Sat Feb 20 13:38:24 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - snakesatsunset, Sat Feb 20 13:57:42 2010

- RE: Good observation Brad - brhaco, Sat Feb 20 14:09:35 2010

- LOL - brhaco, Sat Feb 20 14:12:13 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - Mcdowelli76, Sat Feb 20 15:43:23 2010

- Thank you........ - Tom Burke, Sat Feb 20 16:03:40 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - jscrick, Sat Feb 20 18:55:25 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - amazondoc, Sat Feb 20 22:22:17 2010

- Very good point! - jscrick, Sat Feb 20 22:39:22 2010

- Let me try again - thecrocpot, Sat Feb 20 23:01:52 2010

- RE: Let me try again - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Sun Feb 21 05:49:53 2010

- RE: Let me try again - WSTREPS, Sun Feb 21 08:01:29 2010

- I think the real point.................. - Tom Burke, Sun Feb 21 08:03:03 2010

- RE: I think the real point.................. - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Sun Feb 21 08:33:53 2010

- What do you think of DNA ............... - Tom Burke, Sun Feb 21 10:17:01 2010

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- RE: Let me try again - brd, Sun Feb 21 12:55:16 2010

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- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 14:14:14 2010

- The conclusion of the paper is.... - Jaykis, Sun Feb 21 14:18:48 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 14:26:52 2010

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- RE: Let me try again - antelope, Sun Feb 21 18:19:40 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 18:30:18 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 18:33:15 2010

- RE: Let me try again - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Sun Feb 21 18:38:17 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - Upscale, Sun Feb 21 18:48:06 2010

- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 19:02:17 2010

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- RE: AmazonDoc........................... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 19:31:01 2010

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- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - jscrick, Sun Feb 21 21:29:41 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Sun Feb 21 21:39:54 2010

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- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 21:53:59 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Sun Feb 21 22:52:16 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - amazondoc, Sun Feb 21 23:32:25 2010

- P.S. -- - amazondoc, Mon Feb 22 00:04:58 2010

- You inspire me amazon - Calparsoni, Mon Feb 22 00:50:34 2010

- RE: You inspire me amazon - amazondoc, Mon Feb 22 01:23:03 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - Mcdowelli76, Mon Feb 22 01:29:18 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - amazondoc, Mon Feb 22 01:30:33 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - Mcdowelli76, Mon Feb 22 01:45:28 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - amazondoc, Mon Feb 22 01:49:28 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - amazondoc, Mon Feb 22 01:52:03 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Mon Feb 22 05:01:12 2010

- RE: P.S. -- - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Mon Feb 22 05:12:34 2010

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- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Mon Feb 22 06:03:49 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ............... - jscrick, Mon Feb 22 06:16:25 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - jscrick, Mon Feb 22 06:26:50 2010

- lets go swimmin' n/p - jscrick, Mon Feb 22 06:32:48 2010

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- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - amazondoc, Mon Feb 22 22:29:41 2010

- Albinos aside - Calparsoni, Tue Feb 23 04:12:28 2010

- RE: What do you think of DNA ........... - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Tue Feb 23 05:54:43 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Tue Feb 23 07:06:43 2010

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- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 10:35:19 2010

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- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 11:30:50 2010

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- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 11:48:57 2010

- RE:Thousands...Millions.... - Calparsoni, Tue Feb 23 11:55:07 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - cychluraguy, Tue Feb 23 11:55:26 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 11:58:55 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 12:03:52 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - cychluraguy, Tue Feb 23 12:43:45 2010

- ODD - brd, Tue Feb 23 12:56:47 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - jscrick, Tue Feb 23 12:57:23 2010

RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 13:25:45 2010 
- RE: ODD - amazondoc, Tue Feb 23 13:57:16 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - Calparsoni, Tue Feb 23 14:50:40 2010

- RE: ODD - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Tue Feb 23 15:31:04 2010

- RE: ODD - cychluraguy, Tue Feb 23 15:43:47 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Wed Feb 24 11:29:07 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - Jaykis, Wed Feb 24 12:04:05 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Wed Feb 24 12:11:15 2010

- RE: Morphs = Market - Jaykis, Wed Feb 24 12:18:01 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - cychluraguy, Wed Feb 24 12:28:22 2010

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- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Wed Feb 24 13:11:30 2010

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- RE: Albinos aside - cychluraguy, Wed Feb 24 13:41:25 2010

- RE: Morphs = Market - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Wed Feb 24 15:36:16 2010

- RE: Albinos aside - amazondoc, Wed Feb 24 22:07:23 2010

- Marketing Stages and Introduction Theori - RandyRemington, Thu Feb 25 01:55:08 2010

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