Hi All, Although I seldom come over to this forum, I have read thru Stu's post here & feel the need to comment. I have personally known Stuart since 1981, when he lived in Tulsa, OK. I saw his collection then, the husbandry was great & he was one of the very few cranking out neonate alterna back when almost no one else really was. I saw his collection a few years later in Moore,OK, still a healthy, great setup, going strong. Around 1990, again stopping at Stu's in Lewisville, TX. That time I picked up perfect neonate Andean milks from him & as always, the collection was healthy & all cages clean & well kept. And most recently, last April,2011, on my way to West TX, I stopped & spent the night at Stu's & went thru most of his collection of kingsnakes & milksnakes, and I can again say, one of the cleanest & well-kept collections I have seen. Stu's setup & acute awareness he employs to make sure every snakes cage is clean & mantained clean is impressive. His collection is mantained at optimum temperatures & humidity levels that allow his colony to thrive & produce. Husbandry issues surrounding this zonata problem Stu is dealing with is NOT the issue, the zonatas are the issue most likely. I think Stu is reasonable in requesting a refund & sending these snakes back to whomever he acquired them from. My .02 here....John F.

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