I have to agree with Will, and I too worked in a venom lab. hahahahahahahaha well rounded fella I am.

ALso, I had this conversation with Greg Fry, at a party, lots of Drinks and such. With him, its like here. Two different things. At some point, science(Frys work) seperates from reality. That is day to day usage.

In day to day encounters, HOGNOSE are harmless. That is, normal day to day activities such as picking them up(in nature) no specific care is taken by all the folks I see harassing them in nature, they just pick them up and not bother where the head is. Again, much like many Ozzie elapids. And they have real fangs and real venom.

The reality is, there is no comparison between Hognose and Mohave rattlesnakes, One, the hognose, well its harmless, the other, the Mohave is dangerous and will knock your dingler in the dirt. I saw three mohaves and one hog this mourning. I freely picked up the hog and avoided the mohaves. That is the difference.

Has anyone died from a hog bite? has there been loss of limbs or digits? etc. Thanks

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