I wasnt tooting my own horn. Only trying to establish my educational merit in the topic as to be taken seriously in the conversation. You my friend start slinging word or something like I was talking about your mama, or your hogs for that matter. I wasnt attacking anyone, and it is obvious from my post as such. I was only adding to the discussion. Like I said I am not up to date on every single species. I know no colubrid has hollow fangs. The debate is all in the delivery system. I am not arguing the structure I am not arguing anything with you other than the fact that they are not venomous by definition. You and me might call them venomous from arguments sake in the hobby, but zoologically speaking they simply are not. I dont know how you took offense to my post when it wasnt anything at all referring to you. Especially to the point to talk to me like you did. For all you know we could be good friends, you might want some hogs from me one day, or I of yours, or hell you might slow down and see that I actually have something to contribute here. Like I said above, we are here for the same reason arnt we? Or are you just hear to try and squash out people that dont agree with your way of thinking?



Will Wohlers

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