I am sorry Gregg, I am not into linking on forums like this, I believe if we have people with experience, I would rather here it from them, and you, like you just did.

personally, I have not seen it. Mine hogs, past and present, simply wolf down their prey and in any direction.

I have seen grasp hold and sudue, with many species such as lyresnakes and spotted nights. Holding and chewing then waiting until the prey is dead or paralyzed. When spotted nights grab geckos, you can see the tissue destruction occur.

Here's a pic from last night, its my girl that grew up here, she is wild free ranging and comes to feed in a certain spot. She has done that for about 6 years. Started as a youngster, She feeds a little in the spring, then comes back as soon as she drops her babies. Which she appears to have done. Also, I am sure she feeds elsewhere. Shes doing the grasp and subdue



She either bites releases then finds the prey, or bites and holds on until the prey dies. Normally she releases the first mouse or two, and holds on to the last ones.

If you could describe what you have seen, I surely will keep it in mind and see if I can duplicate it here.

Lastly, I am not sure a tiny forum like this should speak for the world. I have a feeling, the experience here could be very compelling.

about other information, even Dr. GBF's, the information, is often out of context to the use intended. Which again causes confusion. I would rather stick to useful stuff. Thanks

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