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Posted by: DMong at Sat Aug 11 20:07:24 2012 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by DMong ]

"I'm going to make the assumption here that by Hamm you mean Hamm Germany... in which case the chances are you have a BM from the Miramar locality in Costa Rica... most European BM's from my understanding are from that locality... assuming all that to be true your BM may never turn completely black, specimens from the Miramar area simply don't"

Well done Gerry, because I couldn't have said it any better. This is exactly what I first thought as soon as I saw it. It does key-out nicely as L.t.gaigeae, and VERY likely originates from Miramar, Costa Rica stock (Puntarenas province) as you mentioned. It still is very young and has plenty of ontogenetic tranformation to undergo, and some will change a bit more than others and at different rates as they mature.

In any case though, it certainly does look to be a young Black milk. Straight snout band, rear-set temporal band, high ring-count, thin triads, and black tipping all seem to key-out well..

~Doug
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Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - Drdan, Sat Aug 11 03:34:43 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - gerryg, Sat Aug 11 08:18:40 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - Drdan, Sat Aug 11 13:52:36 2012

Here he is at 4 months... - Drdan, Sat Aug 11 14:44:39 2012

Doug... or someone more knowledgeable - gerryg, Sat Aug 11 15:45:40 2012

RE: Doug... or someone more knowledgeable - Lundberg, Sat Aug 11 16:11:06 2012

RE: Doug... or someone more knowledgeable - gerryg, Sat Aug 11 16:43:28 2012

RE: Doug... or someone more knowledgeable - DMong, Sat Aug 11 20:07:24 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - gerryg, Sat Aug 11 19:29:16 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - Lundberg, Sat Aug 11 16:27:21 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - Drdan, Sat Aug 11 23:53:07 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - DMong, Sun Aug 12 02:38:29 2012

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RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - DMong, Tue Aug 14 03:08:56 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - RossPadilla, Thu Aug 16 00:16:25 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - DMong, Mon Aug 13 00:13:28 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - Lundberg, Mon Aug 13 19:16:04 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - DMong, Tue Aug 14 00:55:58 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - RandyWhittington, Sun Aug 12 01:01:34 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - Drdan, Sun Aug 12 23:42:51 2012

Keep us... me anyway... posted - gerryg, Sun Aug 12 13:57:08 2012

RE: Keep us... me anyway... posted - Drdan, Sun Aug 12 23:37:20 2012

Black Milksnake Update -- source... - Drdan, Mon Aug 13 02:11:19 2012

RE: Black Milksnake Update -- source... - gerryg, Mon Aug 13 04:17:10 2012

RE: Black Milksnake Update -- source... - Drdan, Mon Aug 13 05:15:26 2012

RE: Black Milksnake Update -- source... - gerryg, Mon Aug 13 17:01:20 2012

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RE: Black Milksnake Update -- source... - Joe_M, Tue Aug 14 06:44:41 2012

Lots of good info... - SunHerp, Sun Aug 12 18:10:30 2012

RE: Lots of good info... - Drdan, Sun Aug 12 23:40:47 2012

RE: Lots of good info... - Sinaloan, Mon Aug 13 13:49:54 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - AaronBayer, Mon Aug 13 13:03:29 2012

RE: Pointed tail of Black Milksnake - DMong, Mon Aug 13 18:00:43 2012

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