You're right, I am not interested in your assumptions about what snake populations are doing. I am interested in facts, and I have stated facts backed by museum specimens and Hubbs' own field work and the field work of others all across the U.S. YOU seem to be the only one arguing with the facts. I've just tried to present them. You seem hung up on breeding outcomes of mixing gene pools and looking at the results. I only pay attention to locality gene pools.

As for name calling, you are guilty of the same thing, although you make it less obvious...calling Hubbs confused, delusional, misguided, etc. all the while mis-interpreting his maps. Open the book and look at the map again. My original point was that he made no claim for MBKs in AZ in pure form, and he even stated that MBKs might be just dark versions of splendida. I never intened to argue with you, just correct you on an obviously wrong conclusion. You really ought to read the book and stop trying to interpret his ideas based on picture captions and an erroneous map conclusion. I'm done, you are obviously unable to carry on a two-sided discussion or even prove any of your points...

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