I built the artificial caves at the Arizona Sonora Desert Mus. In researching that project. And hanging out on the devils river for over a decade. I researched cave formation at those caves. Of interest, there was lots and lots of debate as to the whys and hows cave formations were formed. Just like with herp keepers. There was this old guy at your cave and he was amazing. He explained cave formation from a realistic view based on EXPERIENCE. I would ask how a soda straw was formed. Others would tell me all manner of academic stuff about chemicals and such. This old fella would say, Son, so don't you see, and explain it perfectly.

So what did you see flipping all those boards and rocks? Whats odd is, you were normal, most herping methods were and are based on the school systems, and not about herps. When herps were under those rocks, you were happily in school staring at cute girls and wondering what was under those rocks.

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