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I am really disgusted by all the new restrictions on herps in California to go in effect this year. Here is what they are restricting from collecting.

No mountain kingsnakes (Lampropeltis zonata) may be taken in Imperial, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Ventura Counties.

There's a lot of other silly things added too like glossys, coachwhips, Red Rattlesnakes, patchnose, ringnecks, Western Spadefoot toads and on and on.

I am really appreciating the value of my zonata collection this morning!

If Californians were allowed to have more than just one zonata and do breeding, that would take the pressure off the wild populations.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

Some of this was based on research showing there is virtually no difference in pulchra and parvirubra. So they have lumped them all together. So of course they ran with that. They need to make more things illegal to justify their jobs IMO. Just another reason for good people to leave the Peoples Republic Of California. That state is bankrupt and sinking fast. Glad I don't live there.

It's not fair to CA residents who just want to own captive bred or sustainably collect a small number of specimens for breeding stock. L. z. parvirubra is not threatened at all, their habitat is too rugged for development and collecting. F&G often use the arguement that some populations are threatened by overcollecting but what they leave out is that those populations represent only a tiny fraction, residing adlacent to roadways and populated areas, of the overall number of populations; most of which are inaccessible to collectors.
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Neither are spadefoot toads, glossy snakes, striped racers, red rattlesnakes, patchnosed snakes, fringed toed lizards and a truck load of other things now banned. The big picture here is United Nations Agenda 21 and The Peoples Republic Of California is totally on board. If the residents of CA don't raise hell now about this, get ready for rosys, desert kings, gopher snakes, Utas, and every reptile in the state to be added to the list plus all areas containing these animals to be designated for non use. Look it up. This is real. Here in Nevada we are fighting legislation banning a lot of exotic animala and they just added native rattlesnakes to the bill...which is ignorant as there is no lack of those around here and no real commercial value. It was written by the Humane Society but the endgame is Agenda 21. They want to ban dogs and cats by 2025. Look it up. You will find that UN Agenda 21 is in all levels of government now. They don't identify it as that, they use terms like "sustainable" and "smart growth" and "going green". They promote artificial scarcity to get the public on board. All "smart" appliances and "smart" phones all hook into the same centralized systems and anytime you hear these terms, it's Agenda 21. I urge everyone in California to email and call the California Department of Fish and Game and express how ridiculous their new regs are. For instance, who can tell me what mountain range zonata occur in Imperial county? Black Mtn?? What a joke. Also, I would also go as far as to boycott purchasing fishing licenses and refrain from any reptile hunting or fishing activity. Hit 'em where it hurts! I buy a fishing license every year...out of state which is very pricey, but for the first time, not this year! Please contact your representatives and get some attention on this issue or kiss your rights goodbye. To see what's happening in Nevada, go to the Southern Nevada Herpetological Society website... SNHS.

Neither are spadefoot toads, glossy snakes, striped racers, red rattlesnakes, patchnosed snakes, fringed toed lizards and a truck load of other things now banned. The big picture here is United Nations Agenda 21 and California is totally on board. If the residents of CA don't raise hell now about this, get ready for rosys, desert kings, gopher snakes, Utas, and every reptile in the state to be added to the list plus all areas containing these animals to be designated for non use. Look it up. This is real. Here in Nevada we are fighting legislation banning a lot of exotics and they just added native rattlesnakes to the bill...which is ignorant as there is no lack of those around here and no real commercial value. It was written by the Humane society but the endgame is Agenda 21. They want to ban dogs and cats by 2025. Look it up. You will find that UN Agenda 21 is in all levels of government now. They don't identify it as that, they use terms like "sustainable" and "smart growth" and "going green". All "smart" appliances and "smart" phones all hook into a centralized system and anytime you hear these terms, it's Agenda 21. I urge everyone in California to email and call the California Department of Fish and Game and express how ridiculous their new regs are. For instance, who can tell me what mountain range zonata occur in Imperial county? Black Mtn?? What a joke. Also, I would also go as far as to boycott purchasing fishing licenses and refrain from any reptile hunting or fishing activity. Hit 'em where it hurts! I buy a fishing license every year...out of state which is very pricey, but for the first time, not this year! To see what's happpening in Nevada go to Southern Nevada Herpetological Society. www.snhs.com or check out Nevada SB245.