How can you say that without data, how old is his female, you do remember, I was on F3 by the time Crocdoc started.

So how do you know how long at least one of my females produced for.

I will also add something here, we are not apples to apples, Crocdoc lives exactly where lacies occur. Which means his overall conditions are exactly what those animals were designed for.

For me, its not nesting that ages some monitors, its heat and extreme cold(10F last winer), I wonder why theres no lacies in marble bar? I am not making excuses, but a big part of our husbandry is based on HEAT and COLD, as in to much of it.

I may be easy, but I am very happy with our results considering. Again, how easy would it be to keep a lizard in a box, that occurs in my yard?

One of the reasons I did not keep indos for so long was, HEAT, as in we could not logically keep the building cool enough, we had to many monitors, with means to many heat lamps and all with outside temps over 100F. As it is, I pay about $400 per month of the lizards electricity.

But back to the subject, how long did my a female produce for me?????

Also, in my opinion, and experience, all females when kept healthy, will end of dying from reproductive complications. That seems to be how they pass without predation.

Lastly, I know I have an odd perception of reptile life. It comes from living with reptiles here in Az.

TAke a tort. they can live for decades, say 50 years. Yet they are only active 30 days a year or so. So is staying in a burrow with a low metabolism waiting or suitable conditions, LIVING? Not exactly, its waiting to live.

This is going to sound even funnier, and I can be funny, but what the heck do you think they are thinking about in a burrow for years at a time?????

When they come out, they are thermo regulating, seeking food, mates, nests, going here and there etc. They are living, but back to that burrow for very extended periods, hahahahgahahahaha?????????

I think we humans confuse longevity with living. Reptiles are not mammals, yes??

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